Progressivism... from the Z-blog

Not his actual post, but some stuff from the comments by the Z-man and others.

In my lifetime, progressivism shifted from addressing the material needs of the poor to addressing the spiritual needs of single females, the mentally ill and social deviants. Note that their concerns about racism are not tethered to the alleged practical impact of racism. It is about the spiritual crisis allegedly caused by racism. There is no practical program to progressivism now.

I think this is why Obama Care was such a mess. The joyous supporters of Obama did not care about health care reform in a practical sense. It was just another symbol indicating that he was the messiah. That is not how you get reformed through Congress. The result made healthcare worse, but they celebrated it anyway because practical issues no longer matter to them.

Progressivism, fully free of practical concerns, first celebrated the coming of their messiah, then when he was not the messiah, it turned into a burning hatred of present reality that has now burned itself out.

That one's from the Z-man himself. Below is from someone calling himself "mycale":

You can see this most clearly with big city governments now, where the government exists to protect deviants, bums, junkies, perverts, and criminals against normal people. The progressives see the dregs of society as their weapon against normalcy. And of course, this isn’t anything new – Bio-Leninism is a thing, anarcho-tyranny is a thing. Yet, it is interesting how clear and obvious the program has become in the past five years or so, particularly since COVID and the Floyd riots.

When it came to Obamacare, the progressives were quite happy to make health insurance worse and more expensive for normal people.

Jeffrey Zoar added to that:

The still unspoken truth of Luigi-mania is that the left hates the Obamacare they hath wrought, but dares not admit it, either to themselves or to anyone else. 

Xman (no relation, as far as I know, to the Z-man) says:

Right. Modern progressivism is basically female narcissism. It’s not about accomplishing anything tangible — health care, pensions, housing, higher standard of living, etc. — it’s about the dopamine high of claiming moral one-upmanship (one-up-personship?) over the bigoted Evil White Racist Males.

So what if Los Angeles burns? It has it’s first Lesbian Fire Commissioner, and it’s first Woman of Color Mayor.

That’s all that matters.

rayj adds the pertinent tangent:

Modern progressivism or Woke is thuggish (and totalitarian) because it is a female inspired and female dominated movement . . . in truth, a religion that already has replaced Christianity in America and much of the West. It persists because Woke’s opposition refuse to face that fact.

Neither people nor governments will cop to this. They pretend females do not inhabit a supremacist position in their nations — despite overwhelming evidence otherwise — and thus the nations are over-run by the Religion of Women, which is what Woke really is, an endless empowering of females and disempowering and demeaning of males. . . even of masculinity itself. The Prot denominations largely have been conquered and are now under the power of Progressivism, which is to say, under the power of women.

Folks want to believe that Woke is on the decline, that Woke is over, that Donald Trump will finish off Woke. This is absurd because the central characteristic of Woke — the cultural and legal supremacy of collective female power — has not even been addressed and admitted, much less conquered.

Trump is an Eighties-era liberal with a feminist daughter, who in four years as president didn’t even acknowledge the truth, much less oppose the feminism that rules all your institutions and slaughters your children out of personal convenience. Thus you declare victory in a war that has yet to be fought.

Well, yeah, I guess. But women are quick to reassert normal heirarchies when men snap back effectively, which we are doing with this current cycle. But Jeffrey Zoar also adds the observation:

When I look around, I see progressives in retreat but I don’t see them giving up on their incoherent “ideology” and looking for a replacement. More like hunkering down in their echo chambers. Increased polarization.

Anyway, just a grab bag of observations on current affairs. I neither endorse nor even claim to agree with all of them, but I think that they're all interesting perspectives worth reading.